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 Post subject: What does the latest financial crisis mean for you?
PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:20 pm 
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In response to issues running crazy of in Greece, the DJIA dropped nearly 1000 points at one point and then rallied to a loss of 347 by the days end. What does this mean to you? To me, it means that the financial meltdown is getting closer and closer. Time to stock up and hunker down!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100506/ap_on_bi_st_ma_re/us_wall_street

NEW YORK – The stock market had one of its most turbulent days in history as the Dow Jones industrials fell to a loss of almost 1,000 points in less than half an hour on fears that Greece's debt problems could halt the global economic recovery.

The market's plunge came less than 90 minutes before the end of trading. The Dow's drop was its largest loss ever during the course of a trading day, but it recovered to a loss of 347 at the close. All the major indexes lost more than 3 percent.

There were reports that the sudden drop was caused by a trader who mistyped an order to sell a large block of stock. The drop in that stock's price was enough to trigger "sell" orders across the market.

Still, the Dow was already down more than 200 points as traders watched protests in the streets of Athens on TV. Protestors raged against austerity measures passed by the Greek parliament. But traders were not comforted by the fact that Greece seemed to be working towards a resolution of its debt problems. Instead, they focused on the possibility that other European countries would also run into trouble, and that the damage to their economies could spread to the U.S.

The Dow fell 998.50 points in its largest point drop ever, eclipsing the 780.87 it lost during the course of trading on Oct. 15, 2008, during the height of the financial crisis. The Dow closed that day down 733.08, the biggest closing loss it has ever suffered.

The Dow has lost 631 points, or 5.7 percent, in three days amid worries about Greece. That is its largest three-day percentage drop since March 2009, when the stock market was nearing its bottom following the financial crisis.

"The market is now realizing that Greece is going to go through a depression over the next couple of years," said Peter Boockvar, equity strategist at Miller Tabak. "Europe is a major trading partner of ours, and this threatens the entire global growth story."

The stock market has had periodic bouts of anxiety about the European economies during the past few months. They have intensified over the past week even as Greece appeared to be moving closer to getting a bailout package from some of its neighbors.

Computer trading intensified the losses as programs designed to sell stocks at a specified level kicked in. Traders use those programs to try to limit their losses when the market is falling. And the selling only led to more selling as prices fell.

The selling was furious:

At 2:20 p.m. EDT, the Dow was at 10,460, a loss of 400 points.

It then tumbled 600 points in seven minutes to its low of the day of 9,869, a drop of 9.2 percent.

By 3:09 p.m., the Dow had regained 700 points. It then fluctuated sharply until the close.

"I think the machines just took over. There's not a lot of human interaction," said Charlie Smith, chief investment officer at Fort Pitt Capital Group. "We've known that automated trading can run away from you, and I think that's what we saw happen today."

On the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, stone-faced traders huddled around electronic boards and televisions, silently watching and waiting. Traders' screens were flashing numbers non-stop, with losses shown in solid blocks of red numbers.

Jack Ablin, chief investment officer at Harris Private Bank in Chicago, said the selling brought back memories of the 1987 crash.

"I've been watching the markets since 1982 and, believe me, I froze at the screen in '87," Ablin said. "But today ... caused me to fall out of my chair at one point. It felt like we lost control."

The impact on some stocks was enormous although brief. Stock in the consulting firm Accenture fell to 4 cents after closing at $42.17 on Wednesday. It closed at $41.09, down just over $1.

NYSE spokesman Raymond Pellecchia said the plunge wasn't caused by a problem with the exchange's trading systems. The Nasdaq Stock Market said it was reviewing its trades with other trading networks.

NYSE chief operating officer Larry Leibowitz said all the major stock exchanges were holding a conference call with the Securities and Exchange Commission to discuss what happened. It was not immediately known if there would be a statement issued after the call to explain the day's events.

Nasdaq issued a statement two hours after the market closed saying it was canceling trades that were executed between 2:40 p.m. and 3 p.m. that it called clearly erroneous. It did not, however, mention a cause of the plunge.

Many professional investors and traders use computer program trading to buy and sell orders for large blocks of stocks. The programs use mathematical models that are designed to give a trader the best possible price on shares.

The programs are often set up in advance and allow computers to react instantly to moves in the market. When a stock index drops by a big amount, for example, computers can unleash a torrent of sell orders across the market. They move so fast that prices, and in turn indexes, can plunge at the fast pace seen Thursday.

The Dow recovered two-thirds of its loss Thursday. It closed down 347.80, or 3.2 percent, at 10,520. That was its biggest point loss since February 2009.

The Standard & Poor's 500 index, the index most closely watched by market pros, fell 37.75, or 3.2 percent, to 1,128.15. The Nasdaq composite index lost 82.65, or 3.4 percent, and closed at 2,319.64.

At the market's lows, all three indexes were showing losses for the year. The Dow now shows a gain of 0.9 percent for 2010, while the S&P is up 1.2 percent and the Nasdaq is up 2.2 percent.

At the close, losses were so widespread that just 173 stocks rose on the NYSE, compared to 3,008 that fell. The major indexes were all down more than 3 percent.

Meanwhile, interest rates on Treasurys soared as traders sought the safety of U.S. government debt. The yield on the benchmark 10-year note, which moves opposite its price, fell to 3.4 percent from late Wednesday's 3.54 percent.


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 Post subject: Re: What does the latest financial crisis mean for you?
PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:23 pm 
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PreppingForChaos wrote:
What does this mean to you?


It means keep all your savings in silver and gold bullion.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:39 pm 
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I happened to be home and watching FBN when the DOW took a trip south. It was rather surreal watching it fall at that rate. The numbers were almost a blur they were changing so fast. It had me thinking; WOW Is this it! For a moment I considered running into town and filling a cart at the store before it was widely known what was happening. Then just as quick, it turned around and started back up.
I've never played the market so it doesn't affect me financially. I do however keep an eye on it for just this type of incident. It's an indicator of the mood of the rest of the country.
What it did do was give me a feeling of uneasiness and a shot in the arm to put even more food on the shelves; things that may be hard to get like coffee, tea, sugar, salt, canning jars and lids. Especially salt for canning everything that comes out of the garden this year.
Hopefully this woke up a few more people that still feel we are in recovery mode.

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 Post subject: Re: What does the latest financial crisis mean for you?
PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 12:36 am 
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I had just discussed this with hubby earlier tonight. I always invest my money in a variety of savings plans, but, with the economy and this current administration's ideas, I wonder what is safe nowadays. I'm still investing in my usual ways, but, for the first time, I'm not considering upping the amounts (for example, after my annual raise, I always re-invest the raise). I'm even thinking about lowering the amounts, and just keeping it in cash, or gold & silver. I have a lot of savings bonds, and have payroll deduction. I always liked them, as, I always said, "The government would have to crash to make these worthless. That's HIGHLY unlikely." HAHAHAHAHA. Now, I'm considering put a lot less into savings bonds!

So, that leaves gold & silver. Sounds swell, doesn't it? Then I worry whether the government will decide to confiscate THAT (remember FDR???).

At this rate, we'll be hoarding tin foil. If the government confiscates THAT, we're in BIG trouble! :lol:

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