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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows?  Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:02 pm |
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coyotehunter wrote: Amnon wrote: rylan wrote: Cows are carbon neutral. CO2 emitted by cows is CO2 that was captured by the grass 3 months ago. They don't emit any "extra" CO2, like oil does (CO2 from millions of years ago).
Ranchers here in MT would love that. The article is missing though, so I can't tell if it is something they are trying to pass, or something they have passed.... It's not the CO2 thats the problem, it's methan. Something cows make an abundance of. Are there any figures that actually prove this, or is the government just digging around for cash? Thats one source. If your want more check with google scholar. You will be able to find an abundance of scientific journal articles on this subject. The site above is only an snapshot of the research. Cows and livestock are not the only animals that produce methane and other enviromentally damaging gases, but they do produce more than most. This is a problem because we have a nasty habit of eliminating the naturally occuring animals and replacing them with mass amounts of our gassy ruminants. In other words, the lone cow isn't the problem, it's how we humans have modified there natural numbers..... if the common demestic cow can even be considered "natural" anymore.
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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows? Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:03 pm |
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However, cows are greenhouse neutral, aren't they? The gases they expel were gases that were absorbed by the plants at the beginning of the season, correct? Thus, they aren't really adding any gases, just converting plants back to gases that they once were.
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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows? Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:16 pm |
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Actually, the bacteria in cows and other domestic animals stomachs breaks down and rearanges naturally occuring compounds into more enviromentally harmful compunds or molecules. It's Chemistry. One thing may be totally "neutral", but once it is broken down into it's separate componates and rearanged through bacteria or other chemical processes it becomes dangerous. My point is, since we have increased the ruminant populations beyond natural levels, their normally small and reversable impact is turned into a much larger problem.
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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows? Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 6:42 pm |
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Amnon wrote: Actually, the bacteria in cows and other domestic animals stomachs breaks down and rearanges naturally occuring compounds into more enviromentally harmful compunds or molecules. It's Chemistry. One thing may be totally "neutral", but once it is broken down into it's separate componates and rearanged through bacteria or other chemical processes it becomes dangerous. My point is, since we have increased the ruminant populations beyond natural levels, their normally small and reversable impact is turned into a much larger problem. Scientists are now concerned more of global cooling, than global warming. Global warming is not 100% scientifically proven as of yet. _________________ Remote Linux Admin: http://remote-server-support.comMontana Photographer: http://artisticvisionmt.com
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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows? Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:44 pm |
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rosenrot wrote: Amnon wrote: Actually, the bacteria in cows and other domestic animals stomachs breaks down and rearanges naturally occuring compounds into more enviromentally harmful compunds or molecules. It's Chemistry. One thing may be totally "neutral", but once it is broken down into it's separate componates and rearanged through bacteria or other chemical processes it becomes dangerous. My point is, since we have increased the ruminant populations beyond natural levels, their normally small and reversable impact is turned into a much larger problem. Scientists are now concerned more of global cooling, than global warming. Global warming is not 100% scientifically proven as of yet. Global warming is a farse... Global Climate Change is the problem.
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Post subject: Re: Fees for smelly cows? Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:33 pm |
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